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師と教え子との対話 : チャールズ・オルソン著『ミュソロゴス』読解
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Item type | 紀要論文 / Departmental Bulletin Paper(1) | |||||
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公開日 | 2019-05-24 | |||||
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タイトル | 師と教え子との対話 : チャールズ・オルソン著『ミュソロゴス』読解 | |||||
言語 | ja | |||||
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その他のタイトル | Dialogue between Master and his Student : An Essay on "Charles Olson and Edward Dorn" in Muthologos" | |||||
言語 | en | |||||
著者 |
平野, 順雄
× 平野, 順雄× Hirano, Yorio |
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アクセス権 | open access | |||||
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内容記述 | Thirteen lectures, interviews, and discussions are included in Charles Olson's Muthologos. They were performed between 1963 and 1969 before Olson's death in 1970. Here we examine a dialogue called "Charles Olson and Edward Dorn" in Muthologos. The dialogue between Olson, age 53, and Dorn took place at the University of California at Berkeley, 24 July in 1965. Dorn, a full-fledged poet of age 34, was Olson's student in the early 50's at Black Mountain College, in North Carolina. Dorn is now attending the Berkeley Poetry Conference as an established poet with his mentor Charles Olson. Having done their poetry reading and given lectures, two of them must be relieved. But it is not the case. Dorn is somewhat depressed, and says "I don't have a poem in me. They're all out" (157). For Dorn, poems should be strictly "private." His poems should not have been read before the audience. If he does it, his poems would belong to the audience, not to him. Dorn has done it already, so he is depressed. We don't understand Dorn's negative sentiments on poetry readings. But Olson accepts what Dorn says, and encourages him. Olson claims that Dorn's way of writing is good. The "great unknown'' suddenly arose before Dorn, as well as before Olson and Creeley (161). Olson remarks on identity of each work. He feels that "identity simply coming out of work has overcome any of the conditions" (161). According to Olson, Dorn needs not fear any loss of his poems since poetry reading does not rob Dorn of his poems. Olson talks about poetry with full understanding of Dorn. Olson and Dorn are in one with negative evaluation of Allen Ginsberg. They regard him as a poet at a loss. Ginsberg's poems sound "sociological cataloguing" for Dorn (163). Olson thinks that "he [Ginsberg) is using every thing in the world, and it's almost like it'll eat him up if he's not careful" (164). On the other hand, Olson highly mentions Jeremy Prynne, an English poet ·who teaches at Cambridge. Dorn knows him as "a con man in the libraries" (158). Olson and Dorn praise the "immaculate" knowing process of Robert Creeley (167). Therefore, this dialogue between mentor and a former disciple can be regarded as a rewriting of history, that is, history of American poetry in mid-century. We are witnessing the process. | |||||
言語 | en | |||||
内容記述タイプ | Abstract | |||||
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言語 | ja | |||||
出版者 | 名古屋大学英文学会 | |||||
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言語 | en | |||||
出版者 | The society of english literature and linguistics Nagoya University | |||||
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言語 | jpn | |||||
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資源 | http://purl.org/coar/resource_type/c_6501 | |||||
タイプ | departmental bulletin paper | |||||
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出版タイプ | VoR | |||||
出版タイプResource | http://purl.org/coar/version/c_970fb48d4fbd8a85 | |||||
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収録物識別子タイプ | PISSN | |||||
収録物識別子 | 0914-2266 | |||||
書誌情報 |
en : IVY 巻 46, p. 23-47, 発行日 2013-11-30 |
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